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	<title>Diskussion:ISO TC 215 - ISO TS 13581 - Versionsgeschichte</title>
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		<id>https://wiki.hl7.de/index.php?title=Diskussion:ISO_TC_215_-_ISO_TS_13581&amp;diff=3298&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Wikiadmin am 4. Februar 2012 um 08:57 Uhr</title>
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		<updated>2012-02-04T08:57:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Nächstältere Version&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Version vom 4. Februar 2012, 08:57 Uhr&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l20&quot; &gt;Zeile 20:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Zeile 20:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Not sure what this means.&amp;#160; Does that mean if HL7 registers an OID for &amp;quot;Nambian drivers license number&amp;quot; we need to send that to some sort of national Nambian OID registry?&amp;#160; I suppose that&amp;#039;s possible if there&amp;#039;s a clear set of rules for exactly what types of OIDs need to be registered, there&amp;#039;s a central directory of the national registries, and it&amp;#039;s a simple notification process where there&amp;#039;s no responsibility other than &amp;quot;I registered this, have a nice day&amp;quot;, that could work.&amp;#160; Not sure I see the value though.&amp;#160; Without those pre-requisites, this wouldn&amp;#039;t be workable.&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Not sure what this means.&amp;#160; Does that mean if HL7 registers an OID for &amp;quot;Nambian drivers license number&amp;quot; we need to send that to some sort of national Nambian OID registry?&amp;#160; I suppose that&amp;#039;s possible if there&amp;#039;s a clear set of rules for exactly what types of OIDs need to be registered, there&amp;#039;s a central directory of the national registries, and it&amp;#039;s a simple notification process where there&amp;#039;s no responsibility other than &amp;quot;I registered this, have a nice day&amp;quot;, that could work.&amp;#160; Not sure I see the value though.&amp;#160; Without those pre-requisites, this wouldn&amp;#039;t be workable.&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;|ISO Member (CA)|&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;|ISO Member (CA)|&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;}}&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;==Comments from Ted Klein 20101020==&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;{{Comment|Note that this is the approved project ISO 13582 which is a Technical Specification.&amp;#160; Just to focus the mind: the draft for ballot is due January 2011.|[[Benutzer:Ted|Ted]] 15:19, 20. Okt. 2010 (UTC)|&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<id>https://wiki.hl7.de/index.php?title=Diskussion:ISO_TC_215_-_ISO_TS_13581&amp;diff=3295&amp;oldid=prev</id>
		<title>Wikiadmin: hat „Diskussion:ISO TC 215-NWIP 679“ nach „Diskussion:ISO TC 215 - ISO TS 13581“ verschoben</title>
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		<updated>2012-02-04T08:52:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;hat „&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Diskussion:ISO_TC_215-NWIP_679&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Diskussion:ISO TC 215-NWIP 679&quot;&gt;Diskussion:ISO TC 215-NWIP 679&lt;/a&gt;“ nach „&lt;a href=&quot;/index.php?title=Diskussion:ISO_TC_215_-_ISO_TS_13581&quot; title=&quot;Diskussion:ISO TC 215 - ISO TS 13581&quot;&gt;Diskussion:ISO TC 215 - ISO TS 13581&lt;/a&gt;“ verschoben&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Version vom 4. Februar 2012, 08:52 Uhr&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-notice&quot; lang=&quot;de&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;mw-diff-empty&quot;&gt;(kein Unterschied)&lt;/div&gt;
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		<title>Wikiadmin am 7. Februar 2011 um 13:47 Uhr</title>
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		<updated>2011-02-07T13:47:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Version vom 7. Februar 2011, 13:47 Uhr&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot; &gt;Zeile 2:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Kommentar Stefan Sabutsch (AT)==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Kommentar Stefan Sabutsch (AT)==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Kommentar&lt;/del&gt;|&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;Was bedeutet eigentlich &amp;quot;Non-licensed Personnel&amp;quot; und &amp;quot;Non-licensed Organizations&amp;quot; im ISO/NWIP/TR Health Informatics – Guidance for maintenance of Object Identifiers OID ?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;|Stefan Sabutsch (AT)|&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Comment&lt;/ins&gt;|&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;Was bedeutet eigentlich &amp;quot;Non-licensed Personnel&amp;quot; und &amp;quot;Non-licensed Organizations&amp;quot; im ISO/NWIP/TR Health Informatics – Guidance for maintenance of Object Identifiers OID ?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;|Stefan Sabutsch (AT)|&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Comments from ISO member (CA) 20100929==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Comments from ISO member (CA) 20100929==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Kommentar&lt;/del&gt;|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;An authority should not assign an OID for concepts or objects being used not solely within its organization&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;International OID should be assigned by a central international OID-Registry&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Generally, the organization responsible for the OID should register the OID&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Comment&lt;/ins&gt;|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;An authority should not assign an OID for concepts or objects being used not solely within its organization&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;International OID should be assigned by a central international OID-Registry&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Generally, the organization responsible for the OID should register the OID&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;All of these rules are problematic.&amp;#160; HL7 needs to assign OIDs for all sorts of things and doesn&amp;#039;t have the bandwidth to wait for the relevant authorities to learn about OIDs and do it themselves.&amp;#160; For example, passport numbers for all countries, drivers licenses for all countries, etc.&amp;#160; No way we could deal with all those organizations and get them up-to-speed.&amp;#160; In Canada, we can&amp;#039;t even wait to get our local medical colleges, governing bodies and government agencies up-to-speed.&amp;#160; It *must* be possible and recognized as legitimate to register a concept that isn&amp;#039;t owned by the organization submitting the registration and without any permission from the owning organization.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;All of these rules are problematic.&amp;#160; HL7 needs to assign OIDs for all sorts of things and doesn&amp;#039;t have the bandwidth to wait for the relevant authorities to learn about OIDs and do it themselves.&amp;#160; For example, passport numbers for all countries, drivers licenses for all countries, etc.&amp;#160; No way we could deal with all those organizations and get them up-to-speed.&amp;#160; In Canada, we can&amp;#039;t even wait to get our local medical colleges, governing bodies and government agencies up-to-speed.&amp;#160; It *must* be possible and recognized as legitimate to register a concept that isn&amp;#039;t owned by the organization submitting the registration and without any permission from the owning organization.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Kommentar&lt;/del&gt;|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;those persons mentioned in the application may change existing OID information&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Comment&lt;/ins&gt;|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;those persons mentioned in the application may change existing OID information&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;this is also a problem.&amp;#160; People die.&amp;#160; They change positions.&amp;#160; Government departments get re-organized.&amp;#160; And as already mentioned, sometimes the responsible organization isn&amp;#039;t the one that does the registration.|ISO Member (CA)|&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;this is also a problem.&amp;#160; People die.&amp;#160; They change positions.&amp;#160; Government departments get re-organized.&amp;#160; And as already mentioned, sometimes the responsible organization isn&amp;#039;t the one that does the registration.|ISO Member (CA)|&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;}}&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Kommentar&lt;/del&gt;|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;However, should the registered OID become generally valid, they must be reported to the national and / or International Registration Authority&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Comment&lt;/ins&gt;|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;However, should the registered OID become generally valid, they must be reported to the national and / or International Registration Authority&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Not sure what this means.&amp;#160; Does that mean if HL7 registers an OID for &amp;quot;Nambian drivers license number&amp;quot; we need to send that to some sort of national Nambian OID registry?&amp;#160; I suppose that&amp;#039;s possible if there&amp;#039;s a clear set of rules for exactly what types of OIDs need to be registered, there&amp;#039;s a central directory of the national registries, and it&amp;#039;s a simple notification process where there&amp;#039;s no responsibility other than &amp;quot;I registered this, have a nice day&amp;quot;, that could work.&amp;#160; Not sure I see the value though.&amp;#160; Without those pre-requisites, this wouldn&amp;#039;t be workable.&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Not sure what this means.&amp;#160; Does that mean if HL7 registers an OID for &amp;quot;Nambian drivers license number&amp;quot; we need to send that to some sort of national Nambian OID registry?&amp;#160; I suppose that&amp;#039;s possible if there&amp;#039;s a clear set of rules for exactly what types of OIDs need to be registered, there&amp;#039;s a central directory of the national registries, and it&amp;#039;s a simple notification process where there&amp;#039;s no responsibility other than &amp;quot;I registered this, have a nice day&amp;quot;, that could work.&amp;#160; Not sure I see the value though.&amp;#160; Without those pre-requisites, this wouldn&amp;#039;t be workable.&amp;quot;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;|ISO Member (CA)|&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;|ISO Member (CA)|&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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==Kommentar Stefan Sabutsch (AT)==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Kommentar|&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;Was bedeutet eigentlich &amp;quot;Non-licensed Personnel&amp;quot; und &amp;quot;Non-licensed Organizations&amp;quot; im ISO/NWIP/TR Health Informatics – Guidance for maintenance of Object Identifiers OID ?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;|Stefan Sabutsch (AT)|&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Kommentar|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;An authority should not assign an OID for concepts or objects being used not solely within its organization&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;International OID should be assigned by a central international OID-Registry&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Generally, the organization responsible for the OID should register the OID&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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All of these rules are problematic.  HL7 needs to assign OIDs for all sorts of things and doesn&amp;#039;t have the bandwidth to wait for the relevant authorities to learn about OIDs and do it themselves.  For example, passport numbers for all countries, drivers licenses for all countries, etc.  No way we could deal with all those organizations and get them up-to-speed.  In Canada, we can&amp;#039;t even wait to get our local medical colleges, governing bodies and government agencies up-to-speed.  It *must* be possible and recognized as legitimate to register a concept that isn&amp;#039;t owned by the organization submitting the registration and without any permission from the owning organization.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Kommentar|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;those persons mentioned in the application may change existing OID information&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;this is also a problem.  People die.  They change positions.  Government departments get re-organized.  And as already mentioned, sometimes the responsible organization isn&amp;#039;t the one that does the registration.|ISO Member (CA)|&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Kommentar|&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;However, should the registered OID become generally valid, they must be reported to the national and / or International Registration Authority&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Not sure what this means.  Does that mean if HL7 registers an OID for &amp;quot;Nambian drivers license number&amp;quot; we need to send that to some sort of national Nambian OID registry?  I suppose that&amp;#039;s possible if there&amp;#039;s a clear set of rules for exactly what types of OIDs need to be registered, there&amp;#039;s a central directory of the national registries, and it&amp;#039;s a simple notification process where there&amp;#039;s no responsibility other than &amp;quot;I registered this, have a nice day&amp;quot;, that could work.  Not sure I see the value though.  Without those pre-requisites, this wouldn&amp;#039;t be workable.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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